Join host Paul Johnson on The Optimistic American as he engages in an inspiring discussion with Jake Harriman and Garrett Cathcart, co-founders of More Perfect Union. This veteran-led organization works tirelessly to bridge political divides, empower communities, and restore civic unity across the United States. Harriman and Cathcart share their remarkable journeys from military service to building a movement that fosters trust, collaboration, and the shared American identity. Topics Discussed in the Video: - The Origins of More Perfect Union: Jake Harriman and Garrett Cathcart recount their military experiences and how witnessing divisions both abroad and at home inspired the creation of More Perfect Union. They discuss their transition from the battlefield to addressing domestic challenges, highlighting the potential of veterans to lead transformative civic initiatives. - Where Did America’s Division Start From?: Paul, Jake, and Garrett explore the root causes of political polarization in the United States, including shifts in leadership, media influences, and the loss of community connections. They discuss the importance of servant leadership and veterans’ unique ability to unify people across ideological divides. - How MPU is Addressing America’s Division: More Perfect Union’s innovative approach includes grassroots efforts to bring people together through community service projects, civic education, and meaningful conversations. Jake and Garrett share their vision for scaling Brickyards nationwide, emphasizing the importance of empowering local leaders to build unity and restore agency in their communities. More Perfect Union: https://www.mpu.us You can listen to this episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Google Podcasts! Spotify: https://optamlink.com/spotify Apple Podcasts: https://optamlink.com/apple Google Podcasts: https://optamlink.com/google We post new content every week so make sure to subscribe to stay in the loop. Learn more about The Optimistic American by checking out our website! https://www.optamerican.com Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:20 - Jake’s Marine Career and forming MPU 08:00 - Garret’s Army Career and forming MPU 14:09 - Political Background 17:27 - Where Did America’s Division Start From? 25:57 - How MPU is Addressing America’s Division 39:51 - Scaling MPU 46:25 - How MPU Gives Everyone the Opportunity to be Successful 52:17 - How You Can Help Rebuild America 53:41 - Final Remarks and Conclusion

In this episode of The Optimistic American, host Paul Johnson sits down with Tom Fishman, CEO of The Builders Program, to discuss the challenges of modern politics and the innovative solutions aimed at bridging the deep divides in Congress. With polarization at an all-time high, The Builders Program leverages groundbreaking tools like the Builders Power Rankings to promote bipartisan collaboration and empower citizens to hold their leaders accountable. Tom shares how his team uses advanced research, data, and AI to evaluate congressional representatives based on their ability to work constructively across party lines. The conversation highlights why leadership rooted in cooperation is essential for building durable solutions and how this initiative is a rallying call for citizens to demand better from their government. You can listen to this episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Google Podcasts! Spotify: https://optamlink.com/spotify Apple Podcasts: https://optamlink.com/apple Google Podcasts: https://optamlink.com/google We post new content every week so make sure to subscribe to stay in the loop. Learn more about The Optimistic American by checking out our website! https://www.optamerican.com Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:48 - Does The Public Want Bipartisanship? 04:07 - Leadership 08:41 - The Builders Program and the Power Rankings 16:45 - Distributing the Data 21:48 - Measuring Results 23:35 - Result Feeds 29:48 - Potential Features to be Added 30:46 - Movement Partners 35:23 - Raising Revenue 36:15 - Participating with the Builders Program 39:02 - Final Remarks & Conclusion